Jason welcomes Lorna Crozier for a gab & a yak about stone angels, that shivery sense good writing gives you, being corny & earnest, unwrapping your brain, just what it is about cats anyway, Kerouac in Vernon, riding the poem wherever it wants to go, and how, by God, there is light. And then Lorna makes Jason cry. Music by savage hunk DJ Max in Tokyo, artwork by Wayne Emde, & help with the intro from handsome Joe Emde. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.